"It is their first time in the playoffs and it's a different animal. We saw some people thrive, we saw others muddle along, we saw guys struggle. I have to be careful, we have to be careful how we evaluate. I know there's been a lot during the course of the playoffs written about those two, I think unfairly but I understand the position they're taking because they're not producing and we have other guys are producing. Over the years, I've seen people get into the playoffs and go, Holy cow, this is something completely different,' and they figure it out and become meaningful contributors. I saw it a number of times in Boston, so we have to be careful. With regards to Ebs, he was our third-leading scorer. He gets a lot of touches. I like his cycle game in his own way. He creates space in his own way because he's quick and he's smart. I know there's some board work issues that he's been better at. I know there's been some flashes of his game that I really like from a power perspective and that's not something you usually associate with ebs. I saw something in his game I haven't seen, he just didn't do it consistently. So, we talked about his approach mentally as to scoring and what's his routine and maybe there's some things we can look at. He's a very skilled player and I know there's some things under the spotlight in a negative fashion but he's a guy that's in the playoffs for the first time and I like the way he finished, he was our third-leading scorer and I guess the takeaway from that is we have to be careful about how we evaluate him."